An exchange between Adair Turner Chair of CCC and Joan Wally MP of EAC
Adair Turner CCC
“When we proceed from the global target to the UK target, we are suggesting something that is reasonably pragmatically close to Contract and Converge. And I think it is important to realize that actually [although people get very worked up about precise methodologies - Contract and Converge or other variants, Triptych etc] – it is very difficult to imagine a long-term path for the world isn’t somewhat related to a Contract-and-Converge-type approach . . . “
Joan Walley EAC
“But what I don’t understand is if that’s the case and what you’re doing is more-or-less . . . .
Adair Turner CCC
“Yes . . . ”
Joan Walley EAC
“ . . . Contraction and Convergence, given the scale of the need for education and for the whole planet really to understand the scale of the challenge, wouldn’t it have sense for you to just come out publicly and actually endorse it properly?”
Adair Turner CCC
“Well . . . I think . . . ”
Joan Walley EAC
“. . . or have you just done that in your report . . . ”
Adair Turner CCC
“No no - I think we have really I mean I think we have . . . I mean we didn’t call it Contract and Converge – apart from anything else, I mean for some reason that I don’t quite understand why this has ended up as a slightly emotive sense to one and its also . . . it, it gets interpreted in particular ways . . . but I think we have made a very clear statement that we cannot imagine a global deal which is both do-able and fair which doesn’t end up by mid-Century with roughly equal rights per capita to emit and that is clearly said in the report . . . ”
David Kennedy tries to interrupt . . .
Joan Walley EAC
“Well sorry can I just . . . if Aubrey Meyer producing a sequel to the book that he’s already written, would he have something written by you on the back-page endorsing Contraction and Convergence?”
Adair Turner CCC
“I think if Aubrey Meyer read the words that I have said he’d be willing to put those on the back of his book because they are pretty strong support in principle for what he’s been saying.”